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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://www.trevorhampel.com/writing-hint-3-prepositions-and-conjunctions/comment-page-1/#comment-65405</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ro.

I found your suggestions very valuable. Thanks for stopping by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ro.</p>
<p>I found your suggestions very valuable. Thanks for stopping by.</p>
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		<title>By: Ro</title>
		<link>http://www.trevorhampel.com/writing-hint-3-prepositions-and-conjunctions/comment-page-1/#comment-65396</link>
		<dc:creator>Ro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the topic of impact and readability, I&#039;ll return to the original quote (Yes I realise this is a 2 year old post). As chris points out, conjunctives can have different uses, so it is more important that they are used to retain meaning rather than grammatical &#039;correctness&#039; (IMHO).

It is difficult to read the quote &quot;Prepositions are not for ending sentences with. And don’t start sentences with a conjunction&quot;.

Because of the way our brain decodes text, impact of the message is preferred at the end of a sentence so that meaning is not lost (as this sentence demonstrates). The &quot;with&quot; at the end of the original statement is dropped by our minds, resulting in a decreased interpretation.

To put it another way, consider a movie that has a &#039;blockbuster&#039; scene at the beginning, followed by political dribble at the end (dribble being a highly technical term). Not only would meaning be lost, you would also find the movie less enjoyable.

Meaning can be clarified through the use of singular and chronological phrasing, as demonstrated by the following rephrased quote.

&quot;Do not start a sentence with a conjunction, or end a sentence with a preposition.&quot;

Additional impact can be obtained by rephrasing the second clause as a command. This more strongly suggests that the clauses have equal weighting.

&quot;Do not start a sentence with a conjunction, and do not end a sentence with a preposition.&quot;

I&#039;ve found that a careful analysis of each clause, with strong readability, helps to ensure text is enjoyable, and well understood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the topic of impact and readability, I&#8217;ll return to the original quote (Yes I realise this is a 2 year old post). As chris points out, conjunctives can have different uses, so it is more important that they are used to retain meaning rather than grammatical &#8216;correctness&#8217; (IMHO).</p>
<p>It is difficult to read the quote &#8220;Prepositions are not for ending sentences with. And don’t start sentences with a conjunction&#8221;.</p>
<p>Because of the way our brain decodes text, impact of the message is preferred at the end of a sentence so that meaning is not lost (as this sentence demonstrates). The &#8220;with&#8221; at the end of the original statement is dropped by our minds, resulting in a decreased interpretation.</p>
<p>To put it another way, consider a movie that has a &#8216;blockbuster&#8217; scene at the beginning, followed by political dribble at the end (dribble being a highly technical term). Not only would meaning be lost, you would also find the movie less enjoyable.</p>
<p>Meaning can be clarified through the use of singular and chronological phrasing, as demonstrated by the following rephrased quote.</p>
<p>&#8220;Do not start a sentence with a conjunction, or end a sentence with a preposition.&#8221;</p>
<p>Additional impact can be obtained by rephrasing the second clause as a command. This more strongly suggests that the clauses have equal weighting.</p>
<p>&#8220;Do not start a sentence with a conjunction, and do not end a sentence with a preposition.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found that a careful analysis of each clause, with strong readability, helps to ensure text is enjoyable, and well understood.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://www.trevorhampel.com/writing-hint-3-prepositions-and-conjunctions/comment-page-1/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points Chris.</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Howard</title>
		<link>http://www.trevorhampel.com/writing-hint-3-prepositions-and-conjunctions/comment-page-1/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes we also use &quot;But&quot;, &quot;Or&quot;, &quot;Yet&quot; and &quot;So&quot; like conjunctive adverbs. For example, where we might mean &quot;However&quot;, we say &quot;But&quot;

&quot;And&quot; though I think we usually just use for emphasis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes we also use &#8220;But&#8221;, &#8220;Or&#8221;, &#8220;Yet&#8221; and &#8220;So&#8221; like conjunctive adverbs. For example, where we might mean &#8220;However&#8221;, we say &#8220;But&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;And&#8221; though I think we usually just use for emphasis.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooooh! Contentious, Trevor. And an argument that no one wins.

I grew up with both those rules, but modern grammar certainly allows both.

Some sentences can only end in a preoposition; otherwise, they appear quite clumsy.

Examples from the &quot;Handbook for Writers and Editors&quot; by Margaret McKenzie (the book we&#039;re using in the TAFE Professional Writing and Editing course):

- Which door did you come through? (Instead of &#039;Through which door did you come?&#039;)

- He was someone you could rely on. (Instead of &#039;He was someone on whom you could rely.&#039;)

- The play wasn&#039;t worth going to. (Instead of &#039;It wasn&#039;t worth going to the play.&#039;)

As she says, &quot;Use common sense and use the structure that sounds most natural&quot;

She also says of starting a sentence with co-ordinating conjunction to use it for emphasis but not to overdo it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooh! Contentious, Trevor. And an argument that no one wins.</p>
<p>I grew up with both those rules, but modern grammar certainly allows both.</p>
<p>Some sentences can only end in a preoposition; otherwise, they appear quite clumsy.</p>
<p>Examples from the &#8220;Handbook for Writers and Editors&#8221; by Margaret McKenzie (the book we&#8217;re using in the TAFE Professional Writing and Editing course):</p>
<p>- Which door did you come through? (Instead of &#8216;Through which door did you come?&#8217;)</p>
<p>- He was someone you could rely on. (Instead of &#8216;He was someone on whom you could rely.&#8217;)</p>
<p>- The play wasn&#8217;t worth going to. (Instead of &#8216;It wasn&#8217;t worth going to the play.&#8217;)</p>
<p>As she says, &#8220;Use common sense and use the structure that sounds most natural&#8221;</p>
<p>She also says of starting a sentence with co-ordinating conjunction to use it for emphasis but not to overdo it.</p>
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